Reverse billing for a specific URL

I recently learned that organizations are starting to successfully set-up
reverse billing arrangements with telecoms that are defined to a specific
URL. For example, you could issue SIM cards to your enumerators flagged
with commcare.org/xxxxx and the costs of data sent or received to that URL
from all of your phones would be centrally billed. This means the era of
top-up and out of credit phones could be over.

Unfortunately, I’ve only heard about it and never done it myself. Does
anyone here have experience with this? I’m curious about experiences in
general, but I’m particularly curious about any efforts in Nigeria.

Thanks in advance,

Eric

··· -- Eric A. Couper m. +1 504 478 9954 e. eric.couper@gmail.com w. www.ericcouper.com t. @_couper

Hey Eric,

I don’t have experience in doing this, but we have done something that
solves a similar problem in Haiti. We were able to get an agreement with
the carrier to get “Telemetry SIMs”. These SIM cards are restricted to
only accessing a few URLs over the data connection (CommCareHQ and a few
Google servers for app updates). These SIM cards were then post-paid by
our partner and had a monthly data plan that we thought was reasonable
(20Mb/month).

Sheel

··· On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Eric Couper wrote:

I recently learned that organizations are starting to successfully set-up
reverse billing arrangements with telecoms that are defined to a specific
URL. For example, you could issue SIM cards to your enumerators flagged
with commcare.org/xxxxx and the costs of data sent or received to that
URL from all of your phones would be centrally billed. This means the era
of top-up and out of credit phones could be over.

Unfortunately, I’ve only heard about it and never done it myself. Does
anyone here have experience with this? I’m curious about experiences in
general, but I’m particularly curious about any efforts in Nigeria.

Thanks in advance,

Eric


Eric A. Couper
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Sheel Shah
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Thanks Sheel,

Do you have a record of what urls would need to be white listed for
Commcare to function correctly? Also, do you now if that list is likely to
change over time?

··· On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 4:50:45 PM UTC-5, Sheel Shah wrote: > > Hey Eric, > > I don't have experience in doing this, but we have done something that > solves a similar problem in Haiti. We were able to get an agreement with > the carrier to get "Telemetry SIMs". These SIM cards are restricted to > only accessing a few URLs over the data connection (CommCareHQ and a few > Google servers for app updates). These SIM cards were then post-paid by > our partner and had a monthly data plan that we thought was reasonable > (20Mb/month). > > Sheel > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Eric Couper <eric....@gmail.com > wrote: > >> I recently learned that organizations are starting to successfully set-up >> reverse billing arrangements with telecoms that are defined to a specific >> URL. For example, you could issue SIM cards to your enumerators flagged >> with commcare.org/xxxxx and the costs of data sent or received to that >> URL from all of your phones would be centrally billed. This means the era >> of top-up and out of credit phones could be over. >> >> Unfortunately, I've only heard about it and never done it myself. Does >> anyone here have experience with this? I'm curious about experiences in >> general, but I'm particularly curious about any efforts in Nigeria. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Eric >> >> -- >> Eric A. Couper >> m. +1 504 478 9954 >> e. eric....@gmail.com >> w. www.ericcouper.com >> t. @_couper >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "commcare-users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to commcare-user...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Sheel Shah > Project Manager | Dimagi > m: +1.781.428.5419 | skype: sheel_shah > > >

Hi Eric,

Apologize about the delay. We’ve used the following URLs:

CommCareHQ: 50.57.29.63
Google: 173.194.
.
and 74.125.*

Google servers typically change based on the region so I would use a
connection monitor on an Android phone to monitor which IP addresses it
accesses when you’re using Google Services (maps and the Play Store).

Sheel

··· On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Eric Couper wrote:

Thanks Sheel,

Do you have a record of what urls would need to be white listed for
Commcare to function correctly? Also, do you now if that list is likely to
change over time?

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 4:50:45 PM UTC-5, Sheel Shah wrote:

Hey Eric,

I don’t have experience in doing this, but we have done something that
solves a similar problem in Haiti. We were able to get an agreement with
the carrier to get “Telemetry SIMs”. These SIM cards are restricted to
only accessing a few URLs over the data connection (CommCareHQ and a few
Google servers for app updates). These SIM cards were then post-paid by
our partner and had a monthly data plan that we thought was reasonable
(20Mb/month).

Sheel

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Eric Couper eric....@gmail.com wrote:

I recently learned that organizations are starting to successfully
set-up reverse billing arrangements with telecoms that are defined to a
specific URL. For example, you could issue SIM cards to your enumerators
flagged with commcare.org/xxxxx and the costs of data sent or received
to that URL from all of your phones would be centrally billed. This means
the era of top-up and out of credit phones could be over.

Unfortunately, I’ve only heard about it and never done it myself. Does
anyone here have experience with this? I’m curious about experiences in
general, but I’m particularly curious about any efforts in Nigeria.

Thanks in advance,

Eric


Eric A. Couper
m. +1 504 478 9954
e. eric....@gmail.com
w. www.ericcouper.com
t. @_couper https://twitter.com/_couper


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Sheel Shah
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I agree with your point