Recommend a best model of Java phone?

Hello everyone!

If you had to buy a Java phone for a CommCare project… instead of an
Android phone… which model might be best?

One project of ours may have a reason to prefer Java phone, and so I wanted
the best option.

(We’re buying the phones in Thailand, by the way, though I don’t expect you
to know about regional variations…)

Got a favorite Java phone?

thanks!
Eric

Aha – I got a reply by email from Saijai –

she said:

"… Nokia C2-01. Most of the large scale project used this model.

More details here:
https://wiki.commcarehq.org/display/commcarepublic/Recommended+Phones+and+Choosing+a+Phone#RecommendedPhonesandChoosingaPhone-J2ME/Java/FeaturePhones(non-
“smartphones”)

thanks all – Eric

··· On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:59:25 AM UTC+7, Eric Stephan wrote: > > > > Hello everyone! > > If you had to buy a Java phone for a CommCare project… instead of an > Android phone… which model might be best? > > One project of ours may have a reason to prefer Java phone, and so I > wanted the best option. > > (We're buying the phones in Thailand, by the way, though I don't expect > you to know about regional variations...) > > Got a favorite Java phone? > > thanks! > Eric > > > > > > > >

Hi Eric,
I think Nokia C2 01 model is not available in spare or in bulk
in India.Do you think this model is available locally in yours market?

Thanks
Malik

··· On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Eric Stephan wrote:

Aha – I got a reply by email from Saijai –

she said:

"… Nokia C2-01. Most of the large scale project used this model.

More details here:
https://wiki.commcarehq.org/display/commcarepublic/Recommended+Phones+and+Choosing+a+Phone#RecommendedPhonesandChoosingaPhone-J2ME/Java/FeaturePhones(non-
“smartphones”)

thanks all – Eric

On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:59:25 AM UTC+7, Eric Stephan wrote:

Hello everyone!

If you had to buy a Java phone for a CommCare project… instead of an
Android phone… which model might be best?

One project of ours may have a reason to prefer Java phone, and so I
wanted the best option.

(We’re buying the phones in Thailand, by the way, though I don’t expect
you to know about regional variations…)

Got a favorite Java phone?

thanks!
Eric


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Hi – I haven’t checked (and it’s possible we may find that we will go with
android anyway.) But if I get information about availability, I’ll let
you know –

Eric

··· On Monday, September 1, 2014 12:25:28 PM UTC+7, Malik Ehtramuddin wrote: > > Hi Eric, > I think Nokia C2 01 model is not available in spare or in bulk > in India.Do you think this model is available locally in yours market? > > Thanks > Malik > > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Eric Stephan <estep...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Aha -- I got a reply by email from Saijai -- >> >> she said: >> >> "... Nokia C2-01. Most of the large scale project used this model. >> >> More details here: >> https://wiki.commcarehq.org/display/commcarepublic/Recommended+Phones+and+Choosing+a+Phone#RecommendedPhonesandChoosingaPhone-J2ME/Java/FeaturePhones(non- >> "smartphones") >> >> thanks all -- Eric >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:59:25 AM UTC+7, Eric Stephan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello everyone! >>> >>> If you had to buy a Java phone for a CommCare project… instead of an >>> Android phone… which model might be best? >>> >>> One project of ours may have a reason to prefer Java phone, and so I >>> wanted the best option. >>> >>> (We're buying the phones in Thailand, by the way, though I don't expect >>> you to know about regional variations...) >>> >>> Got a favorite Java phone? >>> >>> thanks! >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "commcare-users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to commcare-user...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >

Hello Eric,

You can check our recommended phones page here
https://confluence.dimagi.com/display/commcarepublic/Recommended+Phones+and+Choosing+a+Phone#RecommendedPhonesandChoosingaPhone-Recommendedphones:
for more information about tested and approved Java-enabled phones.

Note that Microsoft, the maker of Nokia handsets, has given indications
that it is likely to move out of this production market. THus, depending on
the duration of your project, it may make more sense to go with a low-end
Android phone; the recommended models in this range are listed on our
helpsite here
https://confluence.dimagi.com/display/commcarepublic/Recommended+Phones+and+Choosing+a+Phone#RecommendedPhonesandChoosingaPhone-RecommendedPhones:
.

Best Regards,

Dale Battistoli
Field Manager | Gestionnaire de terrain
West Africa | Afrique de l’Ouest
Dimagi, Inc.
s: dale.battistoli
t: +221 78 291 23 21
e: dbattistoli@dimagi.com
w: http://www.dimagi.com/

··· 2014-09-01 7:32 GMT+00:00 Eric Stephan :

Hi – I haven’t checked (and it’s possible we may find that we will go
with android anyway.) But if I get information about availability, I’ll
let you know –

Eric

On Monday, September 1, 2014 12:25:28 PM UTC+7, Malik Ehtramuddin wrote:

Hi Eric,
I think Nokia C2 01 model is not available in spare or in bulk
in India.Do you think this model is available locally in yours market?

Thanks
Malik

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Eric Stephan estep...@gmail.com wrote:

Aha – I got a reply by email from Saijai –

she said:

"… Nokia C2-01. Most of the large scale project used this model.

More details here: https://wiki.commcarehq.org/display/commcarepublic/
Recommended+Phones+and+Choosing+a+Phone#RecommendedPhonesandChoosingaP
hone-J2ME/Java/FeaturePhones(non-“smartphones”)

thanks all – Eric

On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:59:25 AM UTC+7, Eric Stephan wrote:

Hello everyone!

If you had to buy a Java phone for a CommCare project… instead of an
Android phone… which model might be best?

One project of ours may have a reason to prefer Java phone, and so I
wanted the best option.

(We’re buying the phones in Thailand, by the way, though I don’t expect
you to know about regional variations…)

Got a favorite Java phone?

thanks!
Eric


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That is great input – thank you. Here are questions/comments in response
to your note about microsoft/nokia possibly cancelling java phones:

1-- First, a question: Let’s imagine that my project purchased the very
last box of fifty Nokia C2-01 mobile phones ever made, and we started
working with those. Is there a chance that Dimagi’s support for Java
phone functionality on the CommCare side of things might eventually be
halted as an eventual result of the discontinuation that was done by
Nokia/Microsoft?

2-- Just FYI, the consideration that is making us consider Java phones is
not in fact budget. Rather, it is that the outreach workers carrying the
phones might be operating in poor security conditions, and the nicer
smartphones could be seen as creating a target for robbery. However, we
are still far from deciding that this is actually going to be a
consideration for us. I’m simply getting all the info.

Thanks! --Eric

··· On Monday, September 1, 2014 3:22:40 PM UTC+7, dbattistoli wrote: > > Hello Eric, > > You can check our recommended phones page here > > for more information about tested and approved Java-enabled phones. > > Note that Microsoft, the maker of Nokia handsets, has given indications > that it is likely to move out of this production market. THus, depending on > the duration of your project, it may make more sense to go with a low-end > Android phone; the recommended models in this range are listed on our > helpsite here > > . > > Best Regards, > > Dale Battistoli > Field Manager | Gestionnaire de terrain > West Africa | Afrique de l'Ouest > Dimagi, Inc. > s: dale.battistoli > t: +221 78 291 23 21 > e: dbatt...@dimagi.com > w: http://www.dimagi.com/ > > > > > 2014-09-01 7:32 GMT+00:00 Eric Stephan <este...@fhi360.org >: > >> Hi -- I haven't checked (and it's possible we may find that we will go >> with android anyway.) But if I get information about availability, I'll >> let you know -- >> >> Eric >> >> >> >> On Monday, September 1, 2014 12:25:28 PM UTC+7, Malik Ehtramuddin wrote: >> >>> Hi Eric, >>> I think Nokia C2 01 model is not available in spare or in >>> bulk in India.Do you think this model is available locally in yours market? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Malik >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Eric Stephan wrote: >>> >>>> Aha -- I got a reply by email from Saijai -- >>>> >>>> she said: >>>> >>>> "... Nokia C2-01. Most of the large scale project used this model. >>>> >>>> More details here: https://wiki.commcarehq.org/display/commcarepublic/ >>>> Recommended+Phones+and+Choosing+a+Phone#RecommendedPhonesandChoosingaP >>>> hone-J2ME/Java/FeaturePhones(non-"smartphones") >>>> >>>> thanks all -- Eric >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:59:25 AM UTC+7, Eric Stephan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone! >>>>> >>>>> If you had to buy a Java phone for a CommCare project… instead of an >>>>> Android phone… which model might be best? >>>>> >>>>> One project of ours may have a reason to prefer Java phone, and so I >>>>> wanted the best option. >>>>> >>>>> (We're buying the phones in Thailand, by the way, though I don't >>>>> expect you to know about regional variations...) >>>>> >>>>> Got a favorite Java phone? >>>>> >>>>> thanks! >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "commcare-users" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to commcare-user...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "commcare-users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to commcare-user...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >

In answer to Malik – I just looked around mobile stores and also more
informal mobile markets here in Bangkok, and it looks like
(1) Nokia C2-01 is definitely not manufactured anymore and nobody has it in
stock,
(2) the only way I would get that phone is by purchasing old used ones from
used mobile vendors.

··· On Monday, September 1, 2014 12:25:28 PM UTC+7, Malik Ehtramuddin wrote: > > Hi Eric, > I think Nokia C2 01 model is not available in spare or in bulk > in India.Do you think this model is available locally in yours market? > > Thanks > Malik > > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Eric Stephan <estep...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Aha -- I got a reply by email from Saijai -- >> >> she said: >> >> "... Nokia C2-01. Most of the large scale project used this model. >> >> More details here: >> https://wiki.commcarehq.org/display/commcarepublic/Recommended+Phones+and+Choosing+a+Phone#RecommendedPhonesandChoosingaPhone-J2ME/Java/FeaturePhones(non- >> "smartphones") >> >> thanks all -- Eric >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, September 1, 2014 11:59:25 AM UTC+7, Eric Stephan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello everyone! >>> >>> If you had to buy a Java phone for a CommCare project… instead of an >>> Android phone… which model might be best? >>> >>> One project of ours may have a reason to prefer Java phone, and so I >>> wanted the best option. >>> >>> (We're buying the phones in Thailand, by the way, though I don't expect >>> you to know about regional variations...) >>> >>> Got a favorite Java phone? >>> >>> thanks! >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "commcare-users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to commcare-user...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >

Eric,

··· On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 4:09 AM, Eric Stephan wrote:

1-- First, a question: Let’s imagine that my project purchased the very
last box of fifty Nokia C2-01 mobile phones ever made, and we started
working with those. Is there a chance that Dimagi’s support for Java
phone functionality on the CommCare side of things might eventually be
halted as an eventual result of the discontinuation that was done by
Nokia/Microsoft?

We have no plans to drop support for basic Java phones and will continue to
fix bugs, add functionality to the core engine, and perform new releases.
Depending on the market for Java phones in the future, however, we shift to
adding some new features only for Android and other platforms with a clear
future, and leave the J2ME client in a maintenance mode where all core
functions are maintained but it doesn’t receive some new changes.

Regardless of our level of support for creating new Java client releases,
CommCare HQ and the CommCare tool chain will continue supporting all of the
old versions of CommCare mobile indefinitely, and they will still be
available for project use.

-Clayton

good info, thank you!

Eric

··· On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:06:53 PM UTC+7, Clayton Sims wrote: > > Eric, > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 4:09 AM, Eric Stephan <este...@fhi360.org > wrote: > >> 1-- First, a question: Let's imagine that my project purchased the very >> last box of fifty Nokia C2-01 mobile phones ever made, and we started >> working with those. Is there a chance that Dimagi's support for Java >> phone functionality on the CommCare side of things might eventually be >> halted as an eventual result of the discontinuation that was done by >> Nokia/Microsoft? >> > > > We have no plans to drop support for basic Java phones and will continue > to fix bugs, add functionality to the core engine, and perform new > releases. Depending on the market for Java phones in the future, however, > we shift to adding some new features only for Android and other platforms > with a clear future, and leave the J2ME client in a maintenance mode where > all core functions are maintained but it doesn't receive some new changes. > > Regardless of our level of support for creating new Java client releases, > CommCare HQ and the CommCare tool chain will continue supporting all of the > old versions of CommCare mobile indefinitely, and they will still be > available for project use. > > -Clayton > > > > >