No cases on Nokia

Hi all,
Does anyone know or have any experience on using commcare with nokias (we
use Nokia C2-01). I am just wondering what the upper limit of the case that
can be stored on a nokia is.

··· -- -Emeka-

Emeka,

The upper limit is defined by a few different properties (How many cases,
what size they are, how complex your select screen is) and also in the
limitation (slow selection, actually running into problems with storage
space, etc).

We've run projects with ~500 cases on J2ME phones successfully. What scale
are you considering?

-Clayton

··· On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Emeka Chukwu wrote:

Hi all,
Does anyone know or have any experience on using commcare with nokias (we
use Nokia C2-01). I am just wondering what the upper limit of the case that
can be stored on a nokia is.

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-Emeka-

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Clayton,
Thanx for this response, I currently have two users with an average of 150 client cases registered every month in the last two months. Just wondering what will happen in 1year. So overall, this clients' cases can grow beyond 1500 clients each before December.

Thanx

-Emeka Chukwu-

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On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Clayton Sims csims@dimagi.com wrote:

Emeka,

The upper limit is defined by a few different properties (How many cases, what size they are, how complex your select screen is) and also in the limitation (slow selection, actually running into problems with storage space, etc).

We've run projects with ~500 cases on J2ME phones successfully. What scale are you considering?

-Clayton

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Emeka Chukwu emeka2015@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Does anyone know or have any experience on using commcare with nokias (we use Nokia C2-01). I am just wondering what the upper limit of the case that can be stored on a nokia is.

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Hey Emeka,

These are all new pregnant mothers? Wow, that's a busy clinic. Can you
email me the details of this separately so I can take a look at it on HQ?

The best way to get that case number down is to have them close out the
case once they give birth. This means that the case will leave the phone
and should keep the numbers down, and then only the current pregnant
mothers will be on the phone. The data for closed cases will still be on
HQ. The only downside to this is that if a mother becomes pregnant again
they will have to re-register her on CommCare, but from what I remember
they were creating a new paper card for them anyway so this doesn't really
change their current workflow.

Are they currently closing out cases? Maybe you could change the SMS that
they receive to also say "please close this case."

Hope all is well,

-Andrea

··· On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Emeka2015 wrote:

Clayton,
Thanx for this response, I currently have two users with an average of 150
client cases registered every month in the last two months. Just wondering
what will happen in 1year. So overall, this clients' cases can grow beyond
1500 clients each before December.

Thanx

-Emeka Chukwu-
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Clayton Sims csims@dimagi.com wrote:

Emeka,

The upper limit is defined by a few different properties (How many cases,
what size they are, how complex your select screen is) and also in the
limitation (slow selection, actually running into problems with storage
space, etc).

We've run projects with ~500 cases on J2ME phones successfully. What scale
are you considering?

-Clayton

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Emeka Chukwu emeka2015@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,
Does anyone know or have any experience on using commcare with nokias (we
use Nokia C2-01). I am just wondering what the upper limit of the case that
can be stored on a nokia is.

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Emeka,

Yeah, unfortunately 1500 cases is pretty far outside of the scope of the
tool currently, although that scale is possible with our Android
application CommCare ODK, which you can test out with your current
application as-is with no changes.

Closing out cases is definitely the best alternative solution. We may
develop support for larger capacities of cases on Nokia phones in the
future, but for most people's use cases it becomes incredibly difficult to
manage more than 1000 cases on a mobile phone that small for other reasons
as well, so migrating to android phones (which are faster and have better
user interaction capabilities) tends to be a good solution for that kind of
setting.

-Clayton

··· On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Andrea Fletcher wrote:

Hey Emeka,

These are all new pregnant mothers? Wow, that's a busy clinic. Can you
email me the details of this separately so I can take a look at it on HQ?

The best way to get that case number down is to have them close out the
case once they give birth. This means that the case will leave the phone
and should keep the numbers down, and then only the current pregnant
mothers will be on the phone. The data for closed cases will still be on
HQ. The only downside to this is that if a mother becomes pregnant again
they will have to re-register her on CommCare, but from what I remember
they were creating a new paper card for them anyway so this doesn't really
change their current workflow.

Are they currently closing out cases? Maybe you could change the SMS that
they receive to also say "please close this case."

Hope all is well,

-Andrea

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Emeka2015 emeka2015@gmail.com wrote:

Clayton,
Thanx for this response, I currently have two users with an average of
150 client cases registered every month in the last two months. Just
wondering what will happen in 1year. So overall, this clients' cases can
grow beyond 1500 clients each before December.

Thanx

-Emeka Chukwu-
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Clayton Sims csims@dimagi.com wrote:

Emeka,

The upper limit is defined by a few different properties (How many cases,
what size they are, how complex your select screen is) and also in the
limitation (slow selection, actually running into problems with storage
space, etc).

We've run projects with ~500 cases on J2ME phones successfully. What
scale are you considering?

-Clayton

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Emeka Chukwu emeka2015@gmail.comwrote:

Hi all,
Does anyone know or have any experience on using commcare with nokias
(we use Nokia C2-01). I am just wondering what the upper limit of the case
that can be stored on a nokia is.

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