Default message/Label in local language(Hindi)?

Girdhari_Bora · March 11, 2012, 9:31am

Hi all,

Can we have the following two messages/labels in Hindi in CommCare. We are soon deploying one application with ASHAs (CHWs) and if we can have the message/Label (in pics below) in HINDI, it will be very helpful.

  Can Done be called as “आगे”.

[Done_instruction.jpg]

  Can we have the finished message in Hindi.

[Finished screen.jpg]

warm regards,
girdhari

Clayton_Sims · March 12, 2012, 3:42pm

Girdhari,

The message

Form Complete, thanks!
is encoded by the translation key

sending.view.done

···

* * and the "Done" button's translation is encoded by the key

button.Next
*
*
If you update these in the *User Interface Translations *section of the
application builder, it should change the translations. Please let me know
if you have any difficulties.

Regards,
-Clayton

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Girdhari Bora gbora@intrahealth.orgwrote:

Hi all,****

Can we have the following two messages/labels in Hindi in CommCare. We are
soon deploying one application with ASHAs (CHWs) and if we can have the
message/Label (in pics below) in HINDI, it will be very helpful.****

**1. **Can Done be called as “आगे”. ****

[image: Done_instruction.jpg]****

2. Can we have the finished message in Hindi.

[image: Finished screen.jpg] ****

warm regards,****

girdhari****

Girdhari_Bora · March 12, 2012, 3:43pm

Thanjs a ton Clayton!

···

From: commcare-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:commcare-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton Sims Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:12 PM To: commcare-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Default message/Label in local language(Hindi) ??

Girdhari,

The message

Form Complete, thanks!
is encoded by the translation key

sending.view.done

and the "Done" button's translation is encoded by the key

button.Next

If you update these in the User Interface Translations section of the application builder, it should change the translations. Please let me know if you have any difficulties.

Regards,
-Clayton

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Girdhari Bora <gbora@intrahealth.org mailto:gbora@intrahealth.org> wrote:
Hi all,

Can we have the following two messages/labels in Hindi in CommCare. We are soon deploying one application with ASHAs (CHWs) and if we can have the message/Label (in pics below) in HINDI, it will be very helpful.

  Can Done be called as “आगे”.

[Done_instruction.jpg]

  Can we have the finished message in Hindi.

[Finished screen.jpg]

warm regards,
girdhari

Girdhari_Bora · March 13, 2012, 4:38pm

Hello everyone,

We are preparing a quiz for ASHAs in CommCare and want the quiz to be evaluated based on the responses.

I could develop a simple quiz with a simple logic but intend to evaluate responses of the user and than at the end present user with the total score. I could not get much literature on how to go about it in CommCare.

I want to know how does one use Data Nodes ( an example will be perfect) ? and How to show conditional text on the label/Prompt for e.g. “You have scored 100 (calculated) marks, Good (this text may change based on the total score)”

Looking forward to the responses.

warm regards,
girdhari

···

From: commcare-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:commcare-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton Sims Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:12 PM To: commcare-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Default message/Label in local language(Hindi) ??

Girdhari,

The message

Form Complete, thanks!
is encoded by the translation key

sending.view.done

and the "Done" button's translation is encoded by the key

button.Next

If you update these in the User Interface Translations section of the application builder, it should change the translations. Please let me know if you have any difficulties.

Regards,
-Clayton

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Girdhari Bora <gbora@intrahealth.org mailto:gbora@intrahealth.org> wrote:
Hi all,

Can we have the following two messages/labels in Hindi in CommCare. We are soon deploying one application with ASHAs (CHWs) and if we can have the message/Label (in pics below) in HINDI, it will be very helpful.

  Can Done be called as “आगे”.

[Done_instruction.jpg]

  Can we have the finished message in Hindi.

[Finished screen.jpg]

warm regards,
girdhari

Clayton_Sims · March 15, 2012, 4:35pm

Ghirdari,

There are a few components here that you'll need to configure. Also, some
of these things are supported more cleanly than others, and we're
continuing to roll in better support for some of the aspects you write
manually here. In any case, here is what you'll need to configure.

Data Nodes.

Data nodes are places to calculate and store values without having a
question asked to the user. The important element for your use is the *
calculate* field. Depending on how you plan on scoring the test, this field
will look different. We'll assume you'll be scoring your test in the format
of assigning point values to individual answers. The easiest way of doing
so is to make all of the select values numbers, so each item in a select is
set to an id value of something like 3 or 0.

If all that is true, your data node's calculate would look something like

int(/data/question_one) + int(/data/question_two) +
int(/data/question_three)

where data is the form name in the form properties pane in Vellum on
the right side (it's data by default), and question_one, etc are the
id's under Question ID in the middle pane. This also assumes your form
doesn't have any groups in it.

So now we have a data node which contains an integer value which is the
score on the test. There are two tasks remaining.

Outputting data in labels

Feeding data into a question label is unfortunately a fairly rough user
experience. Essentially you'll need to manually feed in the XML markup that
the form uses to accomplish this.

First, find the Question ID of the data node created in the first
section. Now, create the Label where you'll be displaying this value, and
put in your text along with the bolded section below into the Display Text

···

* *

You have scored * *out of 100 marks!

Where data_node_id is the id of the data node. This reference is the same
format used in the first section. This should accomplish displaying the raw
number.

This would be a good time to roll out a build and test whether things are
working. Once you've verified the number is being displayed we can work on
getting a calculated label.

Calculating a derived value, and displaying conditional localized text.

There are two ways to accomplish the last item you've mentioned here. We'll
assume for simplicity that we want to display between 3 different messages
for (Good, Alright, Poorly), and that we want to do the easier
option.

The most straightforward is to create three different Label questions,
each of which will represent one of the labels. One big advantage of this
is that you can fully customize the message. "You scored 100 marks! Great
job!" v. "You only scored 30 marks, you need improvement".

First, create the three Label questions, and set up their text and the
output inside of them.

Then, in the Skip Condition, you will enter a value which will be True if
the label should be displayed, and False otherwise (apologies for the
confusing name). We'll say that Good is greater than 75, Alright is between
75 and 50, and poorly is below 50. The three conditions would be

/data/data_node_id > 75

/data/data_node_id <= 75 and /data/data_node_id > 50

/data/data_node_id <= 50

respectively. You can enter these using the Edit button in Vellum next
to the Skip Condition and filling out the conditions for the node (you
can also drag the node into the box, instead of having to type it out).

Advanced (even more) localized outputs

If you've got many categories instead of just 3, it might be a burden to
maintain something like 10 different output labels, in which case
displaying the "good/alright/poor" style text can occur in its own
framework. There are a couple ways to do this, but we'll cover the high
level method. I won't go into as much detail on this section, but it might
be worth experimenting with

First, we'll create another data node where we're going to stick a new
calculated value. This value will be an id string which represents the
message we want to display (g, a, p).

We calculate this value similarly to how we did the skip conditions in part
3, but we'll need to type them out by hand instead. We'll also use the "if"
function, which checks an expression, and sets the value to the first item
if it is true, and the second if it is false. We don't need to put in all
of the cases explicitly here, because some of them are implicit (We only
calculate the second 'if' statement if the first is false, so we already
know the score is <= 75, for instance).

if( /data/data_score > 75, 'g', if( /data/data_score > 50, 'a', 'b'))

Now our new data node (call it /data/quality) contains one of (g,a,p).
We only need one Label now, and we'll set it's display text to be

You have scored * *out of 100 marks! <output
ref="jr:itext(/data/quality")/>

the jr:itext function here will display text in the correct language of
the form based on the id argument given. So the last thing we need to do is
to make sure that the form has text for those id's. To do so we'll have to
export the form's text, add the values, and re-import it. You can do so
under Advanced -> Edit Bulk Translations on the right hand panel.
The ID for
the translations should be g or a or p for the three respective
translations.

This is a lot to process, of course, but it should be a good foundation to
get started. Please let me know if you have trouble with any of these steps.

Cheers!
-Clayton

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Girdhari Bora gbora@intrahealth.orgwrote:

Hello everyone,****

We are preparing a quiz for ASHAs in CommCare and want the quiz to be
evaluated based on the responses.****

I could develop a simple quiz with a simple logic but intend to evaluate
responses of the user and than at the end present user with the total
score. I could not get much literature on how to go about it in CommCare.*

I want to know how does one use Data Nodes ( an example will be perfect) ?
and How to show conditional text on the label/Prompt for e.g. “You have
scored *100 *(calculated) marks, Good **(this text may change based on
the total score)” ****

Looking forward to the responses.****

warm regards,****

girdhari****

From: commcare-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:
commcare-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton Sims
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:12 PM
To: commcare-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Default message/Label in local language(Hindi) ??**

Girdhari,****

The message****

Form Complete, thanks!****

is encoded by the translation key****

sending.view.done****

and the "Done" button's translation is encoded by the key****

button.Next****

If you update these in the User Interface Translations * section of the
application builder, it should change the translations. Please let me know
if you have any difficulties.***

Regards,****

-Clayton****

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Girdhari Bora gbora@intrahealth.org
wrote:****

Hi all,****

Can we have the following two messages/labels in Hindi in CommCare. We are
soon deploying one application with ASHAs (CHWs) and if we can have the
message/Label (in pics below) in HINDI, it will be very helpful.****
  Can *Done* be called as “*आगे*”. ****
[image: Done_instruction.jpg]****
  Can we have the finished message in Hindi.****
[image: Finished screen.jpg]****

warm regards,****

girdhari****

Girdhari_Bora · March 16, 2012, 4:39am

Hello Clayton !

Thanks again.

That is enough food for me to work on the application. Will be getting back to you and the team once I have tried it out myself.

By the way I have thought of this quiz after a lot of discussions with ASHAs and others here and all of them are very excited to have it soon.

warm regards,
girdhari

···

___________________ Girdhari Bora ICT Specialist | Manthan Project IntraHealth International B-6/314. Vineet Khand, Gomti Nagar Lucknow 226010, India Ph: +91 522 4004825, M: +91-9410122822 Email: gbora@intrahealth.org

From: commcare-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:commcare-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton Sims
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:05 PM
To: commcare-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Default message/Label in local language(Hindi) ??

Ghirdari,

There are a few components here that you'll need to configure. Also, some of these things are supported more cleanly than others, and we're continuing to roll in better support for some of the aspects you write manually here. In any case, here is what you'll need to configure.

Data Nodes.

Data nodes are places to calculate and store values without having a question asked to the user. The important element for your use is the calculate field. Depending on how you plan on scoring the test, this field will look different. We'll assume you'll be scoring your test in the format of assigning point values to individual answers. The easiest way of doing so is to make all of the select values numbers, so each item in a select is set to an id value of something like 3 or 0.

If all that is true, your data node's calculate would look something like

int(/data/question_one) + int(/data/question_two) + int(/data/question_three)

where data is the form name in the form properties pane in Vellum on the right side (it's data by default), and question_one, etc are the id's under Question ID in the middle pane. This also assumes your form doesn't have any groups in it.

So now we have a data node which contains an integer value which is the score on the test. There are two tasks remaining.

Outputting data in labels

Feeding data into a question label is unfortunately a fairly rough user experience. Essentially you'll need to manually feed in the XML markup that the form uses to accomplish this.

First, find the Question ID of the data node created in the first section. Now, create the Label where you'll be displaying this value, and put in your text along with the bolded section below into the Display Text

You have scored out of 100 marks!

Where data_node_id is the id of the data node. This reference is the same format used in the first section. This should accomplish displaying the raw number.

This would be a good time to roll out a build and test whether things are working. Once you've verified the number is being displayed we can work on getting a calculated label.

Calculating a derived value, and displaying conditional localized text.

There are two ways to accomplish the last item you've mentioned here. We'll assume for simplicity that we want to display between 3 different messages for (Good, Alright, Poorly), and that we want to do the easier option.

The most straightforward is to create three different Label questions, each of which will represent one of the labels. One big advantage of this is that you can fully customize the message. "You scored 100 marks! Great job!" v. "You only scored 30 marks, you need improvement".

First, create the three Label questions, and set up their text and the output inside of them.

Then, in the Skip Condition, you will enter a value which will be True if the label should be displayed, and False otherwise (apologies for the confusing name). We'll say that Good is greater than 75, Alright is between 75 and 50, and poorly is below 50. The three conditions would be

/data/data_node_id > 75

/data/data_node_id <= 75 and /data/data_node_id > 50

/data/data_node_id <= 50

respectively. You can enter these using the Edit button in Vellum next to the Skip Condition and filling out the conditions for the node (you can also drag the node into the box, instead of having to type it out).

Advanced (even more) localized outputs

If you've got many categories instead of just 3, it might be a burden to maintain something like 10 different output labels, in which case displaying the "good/alright/poor" style text can occur in its own framework. There are a couple ways to do this, but we'll cover the high level method. I won't go into as much detail on this section, but it might be worth experimenting with

First, we'll create another data node where we're going to stick a new calculated value. This value will be an id string which represents the message we want to display (g, a, p).

We calculate this value similarly to how we did the skip conditions in part 3, but we'll need to type them out by hand instead. We'll also use the "if" function, which checks an expression, and sets the value to the first item if it is true, and the second if it is false. We don't need to put in all of the cases explicitly here, because some of them are implicit (We only calculate the second 'if' statement if the first is false, so we already know the score is <= 75, for instance).

if( /data/data_score > 75, 'g', if( /data/data_score > 50, 'a', 'b'))

Now our new data node (call it /data/quality) contains one of (g,a,p). We only need one Label now, and we'll set it's display text to be

You have scored out of 100 marks! <output ref="jr:itext(/data/quality")/>

the jr:itext function here will display text in the correct language of the form based on the id argument given. So the last thing we need to do is to make sure that the form has text for those id's. To do so we'll have to export the form's text, add the values, and re-import it. You can do so under Advanced -> Edit Bulk Translations on the right hand panel. The ID for the translations should be g or a or p for the three respective translations.

This is a lot to process, of course, but it should be a good foundation to get started. Please let me know if you have trouble with any of these steps.

Cheers!
-Clayton

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Girdhari Bora <gbora@intrahealth.org mailto:gbora@intrahealth.org> wrote:
Hello everyone,

We are preparing a quiz for ASHAs in CommCare and want the quiz to be evaluated based on the responses.

I could develop a simple quiz with a simple logic but intend to evaluate responses of the user and than at the end present user with the total score. I could not get much literature on how to go about it in CommCare.

I want to know how does one use Data Nodes ( an example will be perfect) ? and How to show conditional text on the label/Prompt for e.g. “You have scored 100 (calculated) marks, Good (this text may change based on the total score)”

Looking forward to the responses.

warm regards,
girdhari

From: commcare-users@googlegroups.com mailto:commcare-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:commcare-users@googlegroups.com mailto:commcare-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton Sims
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:12 PM
To: commcare-users@googlegroups.com mailto:commcare-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Default message/Label in local language(Hindi) ??

Girdhari,

The message

Form Complete, thanks!
is encoded by the translation key

sending.view.done

and the "Done" button's translation is encoded by the key

button.Next

If you update these in the User Interface Translations section of the application builder, it should change the translations. Please let me know if you have any difficulties.

Regards,
-Clayton

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Girdhari Bora <gbora@intrahealth.org mailto:gbora@intrahealth.org> wrote:
Hi all,

Can we have the following two messages/labels in Hindi in CommCare. We are soon deploying one application with ASHAs (CHWs) and if we can have the message/Label (in pics below) in HINDI, it will be very helpful.

  Can Done be called as “आगे”.

[Done_instruction.jpg]

  Can we have the finished message in Hindi.

[Finished screen.jpg]

warm regards,
girdhari

Girdhari_Bora · March 19, 2012, 12:26pm

Hi Clayton,

I built an app using the syntax as suggested by you (below mail) and could successfully do so except for one problem, described here:

The logic of the quiz is :

Ask Q1-i ( single select) , if the answer is correct give 20 marks , else 0 marks,
Ask Q2-i ( single select) , if the answer is correct give 20 marks , else 0 marks,
[Show only if Q1-i was answered wrong i.e. value= 0, else skip] Ask Q1-ii ( single select) , if the answer is correct give 10 marks else 0 marks,
[Show only if Q2-i was answered wrong i.e. value= 0, else skip]Ask Q2-ii ( single select) , if the answer is correct give 10 marks else 0 marks,
Data node calculates total score = Q1-I + Q2-I + Q1-ii + Q2-ii
Label shows the “total score is (i.e. 0/10/20/30/40) out of 40”

But the label shows :

  CORRECT output text in case user traverses through all questions

  NO OUTPUT (total score) text i.e. “total score is  out of 40” in all other cases where user answers either or both of the first 2 questions correctly which means at least one of the following questions were skipped.

I think it’s about default values of the skipped questions and I tried setting them up but to no avail.

Please suggest, how to go about it.

warm regards,
girdhari

···

From: commcare-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:commcare-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton Sims Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:05 PM To: commcare-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Default message/Label in local language(Hindi) ??

Ghirdari,

There are a few components here that you'll need to configure. Also, some of these things are supported more cleanly than others, and we're continuing to roll in better support for some of the aspects you write manually here. In any case, here is what you'll need to configure.

Data Nodes.

Data nodes are places to calculate and store values without having a question asked to the user. The important element for your use is the calculate field. Depending on how you plan on scoring the test, this field will look different. We'll assume you'll be scoring your test in the format of assigning point values to individual answers. The easiest way of doing so is to make all of the select values numbers, so each item in a select is set to an id value of something like 3 or 0.

If all that is true, your data node's calculate would look something like

int(/data/question_one) + int(/data/question_two) + int(/data/question_three)

where data is the form name in the form properties pane in Vellum on the right side (it's data by default), and question_one, etc are the id's under Question ID in the middle pane. This also assumes your form doesn't have any groups in it.

So now we have a data node which contains an integer value which is the score on the test. There are two tasks remaining.

Outputting data in labels

Feeding data into a question label is unfortunately a fairly rough user experience. Essentially you'll need to manually feed in the XML markup that the form uses to accomplish this.

First, find the Question ID of the data node created in the first section. Now, create the Label where you'll be displaying this value, and put in your text along with the bolded section below into the Display Text

You have scored out of 100 marks!

Where data_node_id is the id of the data node. This reference is the same format used in the first section. This should accomplish displaying the raw number.

This would be a good time to roll out a build and test whether things are working. Once you've verified the number is being displayed we can work on getting a calculated label.

Calculating a derived value, and displaying conditional localized text.

There are two ways to accomplish the last item you've mentioned here. We'll assume for simplicity that we want to display between 3 different messages for (Good, Alright, Poorly), and that we want to do the easier option.

The most straightforward is to create three different Label questions, each of which will represent one of the labels. One big advantage of this is that you can fully customize the message. "You scored 100 marks! Great job!" v. "You only scored 30 marks, you need improvement".

First, create the three Label questions, and set up their text and the output inside of them.

Then, in the Skip Condition, you will enter a value which will be True if the label should be displayed, and False otherwise (apologies for the confusing name). We'll say that Good is greater than 75, Alright is between 75 and 50, and poorly is below 50. The three conditions would be

/data/data_node_id > 75

/data/data_node_id <= 75 and /data/data_node_id > 50

/data/data_node_id <= 50

respectively. You can enter these using the Edit button in Vellum next to the Skip Condition and filling out the conditions for the node (you can also drag the node into the box, instead of having to type it out).

Advanced (even more) localized outputs